Meetings/Status Meeting 2006-08-22

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This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE.

It was held in the #openSUSE-project Freenode IRC channel on

Tuesday 2006/08/29 18:00 CEST (16:00 GMT)

Q&A Section

Please add your questions or remarks about topics from the agenda here if you can't participate. We will try to answer them in the meeting.

Your Name	Question/Comment
Ted Bullock	Areca arcmsr Hardware RAID driver should be accepted into mainline kernel 2.6.19 as it has achieved an acceptable quality level, however if the 10.2 release uses the 2.6.18 kernel, this driver won't be available by default. If this is the case can the driver be made available in the 10.2 release as a kernel module package (similar to the ivtv driver) as it is a small standalone piece of code that doesn't affect the rest of the system.
aka_druid	Simple question: is it possible to think of an exceptional re-spin ISO with the fixed yast, zmd, libzypp, etc packages after the next major update via YOU (supposedly in time to include back the delta rpm support)? Ill explain briefly why. After the next major package management update I have the feeling that the package management will be in great shape. It works good already. The problem is people installing 10.1 are not being able to patch their systems so the package management problem is gone. When the newbies see themselves in situations like sources not syncing, corrupted source, failure to solve deps (if someone cancels or kills yast while the helpers were running and they think it crashed) it leads to problems that they cant handle. And this gets very frustrated (I can see in irc and with friends trying 10.1, even those with good linux experience). This is terrible marketing to yast and 10.1 release. If the users dont have to deal with that potentially problematic initial update (it is problematic), then they are more prone to apreciate the other great features of the 10.1 release. PS: I can see this reducing the bitching about 10.1 release in 87%, so please really think about if it is really "that hard" to make those fixed ISOs. Because last time this issue was discussed it was like "no, its too hard, cant do it".
the_dude	What is the status of deltarpms for 10.1? We have support in YAST/ZYPP and AJ will likely have a testrepo available soon. ZMD support is still some time off. -Msmeissn
AgBr	When the build service will open for the public usage? The roadmap say about Q3 but I think that there is some delay.
Albertop	I agree with aka_druid. New ISO's would solve many of the issues met by the users with 10.1. I've already discussed about that in the bugzilla: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=197784.
Geologos	Me too. Due to lack of time fixing these problems , I had to downgrade to 10.0. So a re-spin ISO with everything fixed would be a great idea. Think about it please.
jdd	and make a cd set/dvd available for free for clients without internet access. This was done once with SuSE, it costs, but the appreciation by users is really great and worth the cost (usually it's enough to spread a lot of cd/dvd to the dealers) 10.1 already shipped with a lot of Magazines (at least in Germany), for a lower price than our usual retail box. Most people could have just got it there.-Msmeissn Of course it's too late for 10.1 :-). Is the magazine version the fixed one?
benJIman	In the new features for 10.2 Andreas said "add a button to YaST/zen-installer to add interesting installation sources like freshmeat, sourceforge, packman etc.". Could you clarify your thinking for this, Will it be possible to have kde/gnome file handlers for some file type to allow people to add package repositories by visiting web pages as previously discussed. (Clearly not all package repositories can be centralised/centrally syndicated)

Transcript

2006/08/29 openSUSE Status Meeting transcript