Meetings

This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE.

It was hold on

Tuesday 2006/03/07 18:00 CET

Meeting Minutes

Bugzilla permissions

-- Christian Boltz

Currently, several bugs are not "open" because they are SLES bugs etc. This is annoying in several cases (bugs marked as duplicate, listed on "most annoying bugs" page etc.).

opening all SLES bugs isn't possible - some of them contain confidentialy data from novell partners

non-technical solution: remind people to open as much bugs as possible by moving them to "SUSE Linux"

Action item skh
- ask the bugzilla screening team to open SLES/novellonly bugs if possible

idea of a partly-technical solution: display a reminder "the duplicate had more open permissions - please consider opening this one too" when marking a bug as duplicate...

Action item cboltz:
- ask the bugzilla team (via bugzilla ;-) if this is possible -> bug 155846

Action item skh:
- assign bug 155846 to the bugzilla team
- ask the bugzilla team if we can make the product bugzilla open for everyone

CDB/HCL - hardware database efforts

--the_dude

the CDB is currently not maintained
there is a plan to revive it under the opensuse.org umbrella
in the mean time, contribution to the HCL is helpful
the laptop team needs the HCL for their work

Cleanup old Action Items

Mailing lists

postponed to after 10.1

Mirrors

Action Item henne:

Discuss mirror situation in opensuse@opensuse.org [ongoing/done?]
Involve ftpadmin@suse in the discussion

Action item henne:
- put that to the tasks page

turing reported a mirror admin was confused between ftp.suse.com / ftp.opensuse.org data

Action item turing:
- post the posting about this confusion to opensuse

FOSDEM review, built service

- Meeting minutes to be written :-( (see Transcript)

Bu makalenin geliştirilmeye ihtiyacı vardır. Eğer yardım edebilirseniz lütfen OpenSUSE Style Guide içerisinde yapın.

Eger yapacak birşeyler arıyorsanız articles that need expanding

Action Item michl:
- get a dev room for FOSDEM 2007

drpmsync

Action Item schiele: [2006-02-21: Discuss this at FOSDEM]

discuss how we can make the drpmsync service better
help in the documentation process, extending http://en.opensuse.org/How_to_setup_a_drpmsync_server

schiele gave a talk about that at FOSDEM
mirror servers won't need to run a drpmsync deamon
the ideas are done, the implementation isn't
schiele and mls will work on the implementation together

Action item mls:
- put drpmsync to a public svn repository

put torrents to the wiki

obviously pending because 10.1 final is not released yet

opensuse.org frontpage redesign

some discussions happened in opensuse and opensuse-wiki mailinglist
pflodo is doing a lot
there are some pages with proposals
action item (michl/pflodo) still open

Forum discussion

skh: we most probably will have opensuse forums
discussion on suselinuxsupport.de forum hasn't really started
action item is still open

subfs discussion / "Tasks" page

add sdb article about subfs replacement to tasks page
skh: tasks page still doesn't exist
action item still open

SDB migration / styleguide

open action items:

write HOWTO style-guide
communiccate that we want to keep SDB clean of HOWTO like writings

styleguide was mailed to opensuse-wiki, but is not online yet - ongoing
SDB vs. HOWTO will be done in the styleguide
action items still pending

end user documentation about KMP switch

write documentation about the end user part of the KMP switch
ongoing

documentation about libzypp

add info about all the small YaST tools to the libzypp Wiki page
ongoing

explain "Feature Freeze"

explain "Feature Freeze" on Factory and write something about the development model to Factory
done

other action items

the other action items from this mail are for the tasks page

Handling of Action Items

--Christian Boltz

Should open Action Items be handled in a bugzilla component or a wiki page?

advantages of bugzilla:

you can follow the status
you receive mails on changes
you can give tasks to other people easily
you can postpone them ("LATER")
no Action item can get "lost"
easier to use / query / sort
prefered by most participiants

advantages of a "open Action Items" wiki page:

it's one list (instead of several bugs)
less overhead
you can add/edit several items in a single edit step
prefered by AdrianS

do we need the "open Action Items" in the wiki (given we use bugzilla for them)?

duplicates work if otherwise handled in bugzilla
could be done with a (to be written) wiki plugin (bugzilla provides search results as XML etc.)
not really necessary - a link to a bugzilla search would be OK also

Decision:

track open Action Items with a wiki page for two weeks
then do it two weeks using bugzilla

Action Item adrianS_:
- create the wiki page and the action-item category in bugzilla
- maintain the "open Action Items" wiki page

Status SUSE Linux 10.1

Did not happen because Andreas Jaeger had no time.

Additional Wiki Languages

The openSUSE community would like a status update on the implementation of additional wiki languages, as several additional languages have now met the minimum number of pages required for translated pages (see Translation Status). Can the status update specifically clarify the following points:

Are the only requirements for adding a wiki the translation of the pages listed as required on the OpenSUSE Translation Guide, and a willing maintainer?
On an ongoing basis when a translation team has translated the minimum required pages, what is the expected time frame of wiki creation? Can it be a monthly or bi-monthly task to create wikis for languages that meet the criteria?
Is posting to opensuse-wiki the correct place to request a new wiki (as currently stated in the guide), or should bugzilla be used?

English
en.opensuse.org

Deutsch
de.opensuse.org

Svenska
sv.opensuse.org

Česky
cz.opensuse.org

Türkçe
tr.opensuse.org

Italiano
it.opensuse.org

Français
fr.opensuse.org

Español
es.opensuse.org

--Pflodo

Is there any planned way to control foreign langage wikis? I don't really like censorship, but how can I only guess if the chinese wiki (only an example) speaks about openSUSE or anything else? how will be the sysop trusted? I think there is no real problem for langages at least understood by some Novell persons, but for others? see the turkish problem seen on the list?

--Jdd sysop

- The only requirements for the creation of addional language wikis are:
  - The translation of the required pages as listed in the OpenSUSE Translation Guide
  - A willing moderator.
- The correct location to request additional wikis are on the opensuse-wiki mailing list.
- Time from request to launch of additional wiki: 2-4 weeks.

Q&A Section

Please add your questions or remarks about topics from the agenda here if you cant participate. We will try to answer them in the meeting.

Your Name	Question
Dunes	What is the problem with the frontpage redesign? Users are more keen to keep the subject going then assigned team.

Transcript

2006/03/07 openSUSE Status Meeting transcript

Meetings/Status Meeting 2006-03-07

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